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		<title>Comment on Signs of Over Regulation by Kevin Siekierski</title>
		<link>http://blog.siekierski.com/wordpress/?p=2482&#038;cpage=1#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Siekierski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a bad idea, but I can see the township making it difficult (ie, costly) to request variances or zoning changes.

Who knew the Christmas tree lobby had such pull?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a bad idea, but I can see the township making it difficult (ie, costly) to request variances or zoning changes.</p>
<p>Who knew the Christmas tree lobby had such pull?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Signs of Over Regulation by Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.siekierski.com/wordpress/?p=2482&#038;cpage=1#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A subsequent court order allowed the cider mill to reopen between Labor Day and Jan. 1. But strict guidelines limited operations, restricting sales to cider, popcorn and other mill-oriented goodies, and allowed a small petting farm.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Why the strict guidelines? Why restrict sales to certain items? Depending on how the court order was written (it would be interesting to see), I can imagine a two main possibilities:
1. Strict list: Anything not on the list cannot be sold. This would be idiotic, so it&#039;s probably what is in effect.
2. List with vague &quot;catchall&quot;: The &quot;mill-oriented goodies&quot; mentioned in the article could be in reference to wording in the order that allows for some leeway. This, of course, then requires interpretation. Corn mazes are common at cider mills now, while they weren&#039;t in 1983. Buying a ticket for that seems sensible. Or does &quot;goodies&quot; refer to only foodstuffs and cheap toys?

Yeah, it looks like the guy is provoking the township. I think he should pay the fine, and then tie up their time requesting individual changes to the order, and/or clarification any time he wants to add any product to his shelf. &quot;I would like to start selling caramel-covered apples, and as they aren&#039;t on the list of approved items that may be sold on the premises, I request a modification to the previous order.&quot; Two weeks later: &quot;I would like to start selling souvenir Christmas ornaments, and seek clarification if they are considered a &#039;mill-oriented goodie&#039;.&quot; A month later: &quot;I want to sell food for kids to feed the animals at the petting zoo.&quot; And so forth. Provoke them in a way that is completely legitimate.</description>
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<p>Why the strict guidelines? Why restrict sales to certain items? Depending on how the court order was written (it would be interesting to see), I can imagine a two main possibilities:<br />
1. Strict list: Anything not on the list cannot be sold. This would be idiotic, so it&#8217;s probably what is in effect.<br />
2. List with vague &#8220;catchall&#8221;: The &#8220;mill-oriented goodies&#8221; mentioned in the article could be in reference to wording in the order that allows for some leeway. This, of course, then requires interpretation. Corn mazes are common at cider mills now, while they weren&#8217;t in 1983. Buying a ticket for that seems sensible. Or does &#8220;goodies&#8221; refer to only foodstuffs and cheap toys?</p>
<p>Yeah, it looks like the guy is provoking the township. I think he should pay the fine, and then tie up their time requesting individual changes to the order, and/or clarification any time he wants to add any product to his shelf. &#8220;I would like to start selling caramel-covered apples, and as they aren&#8217;t on the list of approved items that may be sold on the premises, I request a modification to the previous order.&#8221; Two weeks later: &#8220;I would like to start selling souvenir Christmas ornaments, and seek clarification if they are considered a &#8216;mill-oriented goodie&#8217;.&#8221; A month later: &#8220;I want to sell food for kids to feed the animals at the petting zoo.&#8221; And so forth. Provoke them in a way that is completely legitimate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sticker Shock by tigger19z</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigger19z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that people don&#039;t want to repeal the law because it will take them longer to get the bounty if the price is charged incorrectly.  Right now, if you buy, say, a box of Kraft Mac-N-Cheese and it rings up at $1.59 but the sticker say $1.09 it is very easy to take your bag of groceries and receipt to the return counter to get your bounty.  But if there is no price tag on the box, you have to wait for an employee to go over to verify that the tag on the shelf says $1.09.  There are a lot of people here in Michigan who make a living off of the bounty law.  A number of the stores that I have worked in have made comments about certain people that come in a couple times a week, look for items that are tagged incorrectly and buy them.  Then they go to the next store and return them.  They have just made $5 by buying something they didn&#039;t need and didn&#039;t keep.  If it wasn&#039;t tagged, they wouldn&#039;t know if it could ring up incorrectly.

As for doing away with jobs, I don&#039;t think it will make a difference.  I know that at Target they don&#039;t have additional people hired to put the tags on the merchandise.  The stockboy does that.  They have it figured into their routine.  If they didn&#039;t have to do that, could the be more productive, certainly.  And maybe the stores could save money on payroll and pass that savings on to the consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that people don&#8217;t want to repeal the law because it will take them longer to get the bounty if the price is charged incorrectly.  Right now, if you buy, say, a box of Kraft Mac-N-Cheese and it rings up at $1.59 but the sticker say $1.09 it is very easy to take your bag of groceries and receipt to the return counter to get your bounty.  But if there is no price tag on the box, you have to wait for an employee to go over to verify that the tag on the shelf says $1.09.  There are a lot of people here in Michigan who make a living off of the bounty law.  A number of the stores that I have worked in have made comments about certain people that come in a couple times a week, look for items that are tagged incorrectly and buy them.  Then they go to the next store and return them.  They have just made $5 by buying something they didn&#8217;t need and didn&#8217;t keep.  If it wasn&#8217;t tagged, they wouldn&#8217;t know if it could ring up incorrectly.</p>
<p>As for doing away with jobs, I don&#8217;t think it will make a difference.  I know that at Target they don&#8217;t have additional people hired to put the tags on the merchandise.  The stockboy does that.  They have it figured into their routine.  If they didn&#8217;t have to do that, could the be more productive, certainly.  And maybe the stores could save money on payroll and pass that savings on to the consumer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sticker Shock by Kevin Siekierski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Siekierski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, 48 states seem to cope without having the price slapped on every stick of gum.

As for the jobs, it&#039;s not that stores would layoff people, but those workers would be more productive since they didn&#039;t have to label every item.  Shelves still need to be stocked, floors swept, carts retrieved, etc.  However, unions might get in the way of multitasking.  Wait, might?  Unions do get in the way of productivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, 48 states seem to cope without having the price slapped on every stick of gum.</p>
<p>As for the jobs, it&#8217;s not that stores would layoff people, but those workers would be more productive since they didn&#8217;t have to label every item.  Shelves still need to be stocked, floors swept, carts retrieved, etc.  However, unions might get in the way of multitasking.  Wait, might?  Unions do get in the way of productivity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sticker Shock by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh...I read through the comments at The Detroit News. Basically the arguments against repealing this came down to four things:
1. It&#039;s inconvenient for me to have to make sure the item I pick up matches what&#039;s on the shelf.
2. Prices won&#039;t go down because of the savings, it&#039;s an insignificant amount of money.
3. It will cost jobs, as freeing up the time makes employees more efficient and reduces the number of people needed to keep the shelves stocked.
4. How will prices be checked to make sure stores don&#039;t rip people off?

My responses:
1. Tough.
2. Competition between stores will bring the prices down. Margins and all that.
3. Tough. Laws shouldn&#039;t be in place to force inefficiency so that stores have to hire more people. Maybe if they had 2 less employees stocking shelves, they could hire 2 more cashiers.
4. Random checks by officials. Check your own receipt. Complain to the BBB.

The best is that they don&#039;t recognize that people in 48 other states somehow manage to not get screwed by the stores they visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;I read through the comments at The Detroit News. Basically the arguments against repealing this came down to four things:<br />
1. It&#8217;s inconvenient for me to have to make sure the item I pick up matches what&#8217;s on the shelf.<br />
2. Prices won&#8217;t go down because of the savings, it&#8217;s an insignificant amount of money.<br />
3. It will cost jobs, as freeing up the time makes employees more efficient and reduces the number of people needed to keep the shelves stocked.<br />
4. How will prices be checked to make sure stores don&#8217;t rip people off?</p>
<p>My responses:<br />
1. Tough.<br />
2. Competition between stores will bring the prices down. Margins and all that.<br />
3. Tough. Laws shouldn&#8217;t be in place to force inefficiency so that stores have to hire more people. Maybe if they had 2 less employees stocking shelves, they could hire 2 more cashiers.<br />
4. Random checks by officials. Check your own receipt. Complain to the BBB.</p>
<p>The best is that they don&#8217;t recognize that people in 48 other states somehow manage to not get screwed by the stores they visit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sticker Shock by Kevin Siekierski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Siekierski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Items don&#039;t need to be individually labeled, but prices for items should be clearly seen on the shelves or at the gas pumps or wherever.  As for clothes, I do the same thing, check the tag, usually for size first, then price.  Often, XL and XXL articles are more expensive than other sizes.  And, I agree, the penalty should remain the same if the consumer is charged the wrong price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Items don&#8217;t need to be individually labeled, but prices for items should be clearly seen on the shelves or at the gas pumps or wherever.  As for clothes, I do the same thing, check the tag, usually for size first, then price.  Often, XL and XXL articles are more expensive than other sizes.  And, I agree, the penalty should remain the same if the consumer is charged the wrong price.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sticker Shock by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article:
&quot;People would be up in arms if gas wasn&#039;t labeled.&quot;
Yeah, and sticking a label on the shelf is the same as having the price on the pump and the big sign near the road. Or does Mr. Nakfoor get his gas in individually bottled, labeled, and priced gallons?

At the grocery store I don&#039;t look for price tags on the items I pick, I look at the price on the shelf. But on clothing I don&#039;t look at the rack I look at the tag. Since they have to put a tag on to barcode clothing anyway, it&#039;s not hard for them to throw the price on there as well.

Getting rid of mandatory individual tagging makes sense. It&#039;s a waste of time and effort, and the only people who benefit from it are unions, price sticker/gun manufacturers, and people who look for mislabeled products in order to get the sticker price.

The $1-$5 penalty is mocked, but it serves multiple purposes. If an item scans at the wrong price (still possible, even without individual stickers), it penalizes the store. Therefore they have an interest in accuracy. It also motivates people to inspect their bills. If I buy a pack of gum for $80 (the example in the article), I&#039;d be an idiot to pay it. But if I was buying a lot of things and a pack of gum rang up at $5 instead of $1, I would not only get my $4 back, but extra for the inconvenience/mistake. That doesn&#039;t have to go away with the removal of stickers. Since stores operate on a margin, anything that cuts into that margin is of concern. They are and will continue to be careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article:<br />
&#8220;People would be up in arms if gas wasn&#8217;t labeled.&#8221;<br />
Yeah, and sticking a label on the shelf is the same as having the price on the pump and the big sign near the road. Or does Mr. Nakfoor get his gas in individually bottled, labeled, and priced gallons?</p>
<p>At the grocery store I don&#8217;t look for price tags on the items I pick, I look at the price on the shelf. But on clothing I don&#8217;t look at the rack I look at the tag. Since they have to put a tag on to barcode clothing anyway, it&#8217;s not hard for them to throw the price on there as well.</p>
<p>Getting rid of mandatory individual tagging makes sense. It&#8217;s a waste of time and effort, and the only people who benefit from it are unions, price sticker/gun manufacturers, and people who look for mislabeled products in order to get the sticker price.</p>
<p>The $1-$5 penalty is mocked, but it serves multiple purposes. If an item scans at the wrong price (still possible, even without individual stickers), it penalizes the store. Therefore they have an interest in accuracy. It also motivates people to inspect their bills. If I buy a pack of gum for $80 (the example in the article), I&#8217;d be an idiot to pay it. But if I was buying a lot of things and a pack of gum rang up at $5 instead of $1, I would not only get my $4 back, but extra for the inconvenience/mistake. That doesn&#8217;t have to go away with the removal of stickers. Since stores operate on a margin, anything that cuts into that margin is of concern. They are and will continue to be careful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on State of the State by Elk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your comments except I am not so sure about the second bridge.  They added a second bridge to the Bluewater Bridge because of the heavy truck traffic. This used to make  crossing over to a very lengthy wait.  After the second bridge was put up it was much easier to cross into Sarnia from  Port Huron.  However  Detroit has the tunnel which is mainly  used by Autos. It all depends on how much mixed auto/truck traffic uses the bridge. If this is significant a Second bridge may be beneficial.  Even if this is restricted to Truck traffic it could be beneficial for commerce.

My other concern is what politics will be required to get the agenda through.  The dashbaord is a good idea if used regulary to find out what are the bottle necks to  moving the state forward.  Only time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your comments except I am not so sure about the second bridge.  They added a second bridge to the Bluewater Bridge because of the heavy truck traffic. This used to make  crossing over to a very lengthy wait.  After the second bridge was put up it was much easier to cross into Sarnia from  Port Huron.  However  Detroit has the tunnel which is mainly  used by Autos. It all depends on how much mixed auto/truck traffic uses the bridge. If this is significant a Second bridge may be beneficial.  Even if this is restricted to Truck traffic it could be beneficial for commerce.</p>
<p>My other concern is what politics will be required to get the agenda through.  The dashbaord is a good idea if used regulary to find out what are the bottle necks to  moving the state forward.  Only time will tell.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Short Story by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good.  I like the new theme.</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Short Story by Kevin Siekierski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Siekierski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 03:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success!  Although I&#039;m not sure if I like the ScribeFire implementation in Chrome, we&#039;ll see.</description>
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